At the end of that night, venerable Anuruddha put on robes and taking bowl and robes approached the house of the carpenter Pa¤cakanga and sat on the prepared seat. Then the carpenter served venerable Anuruddha, nourishing food and drinks with his own hands. The meal over and when the bowl was put away, the carpenter took a low seat, sat on a side. and said thus: ßVenerable sir, when I approached the elder bhikkhus, they said. `Householder, develop limitless release of mind.' Another one said, `Householder, develop the release of mind grown great.' Venerable sir, the limitless release of mind and the release of mind grown great Þ are they different in meaning and different in words or else the same in meaning and different in words?û

ßThen householder, explain it, as it occurs to you.û

ßVenerable sir, it occurs to me thus, the limitless release of the mind and the release of mind grown great are the same in meaning and different in words.û

ßHouseholder, the limitless release of the mind and the release of mind grown great are different in meaning as well as in words.

ßHouseholder, what is the limitless release of mind? Here, the bhikkhu pervades one direction with thoughts of loving kindness. Also the second, the third, the fourth, above, below and across, in all circumstances, for all purposes, pervades the whole world with thoughts of loving kindness, extensive, grown great and measureless without ill will and anger. The bhikkhu pervades one direction with thoughts of compassion ... re ... intrinsic joy ... re ... equanimity. Also the second, the third, the fourth, above, below, and across, in all circumstances, for all purposes, pervades the whole world with equanimity, extensive, grown great and measureless without ill will and anger. Householder, this is the limitless release of mind.

ßHouseholder, what is the release of mind grown great? The bhikkhu indulges pervading the extent of the root of one tree and abides. This is the release of mind grown great. The bhikkhu indulges pervading the extent of the roots of two or three trees and abides. This is the release of mind grown great The bhikkhu indulges pervading the extent of one village and its fields and abides. This too is the release of mind grown great The bhikkhu indulges pervading the extent of one large kingdom and abides. This too is the release of mind grown great. The bhikkhu indulges pervading the extent of two or three large kingdoms and abides. This too is the release of mind grown great. The bhikkhu indulges pervading the earth limited by the great ocean and abides. This too is the release of mind grown great. Householder, in this method, you should know how these things are different in meaning and different in words.

ßHouseholder, there are four arisings of being. What are the four? Householder, a certain one pervades with limited effulgence, indulging in it abides; at the breakup of the body after death he is born with the gods of limited effulgence. A certain one pervades with limitless effulgence, indulging in it abides; at the breakup of the body after death he is born with the gods of limitless effulgence. A certain one pervades with impure effulgence, indulging in it and abides; at the breakup of the body after death he is born with the gods of impure effulgence. A certain one pervades with pure effulgence, indulging in it abides; at the breakup of the body after death he is born with the gods of pure effulgence.

ßThere is a time when all these gods assemble. Of those assembled, the varied beauty is evident, and not the varied effulgences. Like a man had put in his house a lot of oil lamps. Of those oil lamps the varied flames are evident and not the varied effulgences. In the same manner, householder, there is a time when all these gods assemble. Of those assembled, the varied beauty is evident, and not the varied effulgences. Householder, it does not occur to those gods, `We are permanent, will stand eternity.' Yet wherever they dwell, there they enjoy themselves. Like the flies that do not think, `This that we eat, drink, and carry away is permanent.' Yet wherever they settle, there they enjoy themselves. Householder, in the same manner it does not occur to those gods. `We are permanent, will stand eternity.' Yet wherever they dwell, there they enjoy themselves ... û

When this was said venerable Abhãyo Kaccàno said thus to venerable Anuruddha. `Thank you, venerable Anuruddha. I have a question to ask: are all gods with effulgence with limited effulgence or are there some gods with limitless effulgence?û

ßIn due order there are certain gods with limited effulgence and others with limitless effulgence.û

ßFriend Anuruddha, of these gods born in the same category, why are some with limited effulgence and others with limitless effulgence?û

ßFriend Kaccàna, I will counter-question you on this, and you may reply as it pleases you. The bhikkhu that indulged in pervading one root of a tree and the other that indulged in pervading two or three roots of trees, of the two which one's mental development is superior?û

ßFriend Anuruddha, the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three roots of trees is superior to the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading a single root of a tree.û

ßFriend Kaccàna, the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three roots of trees and the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading a single village and its fields, of the two which one's mental development is superior?û

ßFriend, Anuruddha, the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulgd in pervading one village and its fields is superior to the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three roots oftrees.û

ßFriend Kaccàna, the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading one village and its fields and the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three villages and their fields, of the two which one's mental development is superior?û

ßFriend, Anuruddha, the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three villages and their fields is superior to the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading one village and its fields.û

ßFriend Kaccàna, the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three villages and their fields and the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading a great kingdom, of these two which one's mental development is superior?û

ßFriend Anuruddha, the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading a great kingdom is superior to the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three villagesand their fields.û

ßFriend Kaccàna, the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading one great kingdom and the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three great kingdoms, of these two which one's mental development is superior?û

ßFriend Anuruddha, the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three great kingdoms is superior to the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading one great kingdomû

`Friend Kaccàna, the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three great kingdoms and the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading the earth limited by the great ocean, of the two which one's mental development is superior?û

ßFriend Anuruddha, the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading two or three great kingdoms is superior to the mental development of the bhikkhu that indulged in pervading one great kingdomû

ßFriend Kaccàna, this is the reason that, of gods born in the same category a certain god has limited effulgence and another limitless effulgence.û

ßThank you venerable sir, Anuruddha, I have a further question. Are all gods with impure effulgence, or are there some gods with pure effulgence?û

ßIn due order there are certain gods with impure effulgence and others with pure effulgence.û

ßFriend Anuruddha, of these gods born in the same category, why are some with impure effulgence and others with pure effulgence?û

ßFriend, Kaccàna I will give you a comparison, for a certain wise one understands when a comparison is given. Friend Kaccàna, of an oil lamp that is burning, the oil and wick are both impure. On account of the impure oil and wick, the flame burns as though blinking. In the same manner a certain bhikkhu pervades, indulges, and abides with impure effulgence. Because his bodily misconduct is not thoroughly overcome, sloth and torpor and restlessness and worry are not well turned out; he has a blinking effulgence. After the breakup of the body, after death he is born with the gods of impure effulgence. Friend Kaccàna, of an oil lamp that is burning, the oil and wick are both pure. On accunt of the pure oil and wick, the flame burns without blinking. In the same manner a certain bhikkhu pervades, indulges, and abides with pure effulgence. Because his bodily misconduct is thoroughly overcome, sloth and torpor and restlessness and worry are well turned out; he has a non-blinking effulgence. After the breakup of the body, after death, he is born with the gods of pure effulgence. Friend Kaccàna, on account of this, of these gods born in the same category, some are with impure effulgence and others with pure effulgence.û

Then venerable Abhãyo Kaccàna said to venerable Anuruddha. ßThank you, venerable sir. Friend Anuruddha, you did not say, `I heard this, or it should be like this,' but said, `Those gods were thus and thus.' It occurs to me that venerable Anuruddha should have lived, spoken, discussed, and associated them earlier.û

ßFriend, Kaccàna you speak words close upon praise, yet I will explain it to you. In the past I have lived, spoken, discussed and associated these gods.û

Then venerable Abhãya Kaccàna said to the carpenter Pa¤ckanga, ßHouseholder, it is great gain, we dispelled our doubts hearing this discourse.û